The Complicated Burrito

Keith Maples Interview - TCB

February 12, 2020 Keith Maples Season 1 Episode 2
The Complicated Burrito
Keith Maples Interview - TCB
The Complicated Burrito
Keith Maples Interview - TCB
Feb 12, 2020 Season 1 Episode 2
Keith Maples

Current guitarist for Black Moon Syndicate and former guitarist for Bishop Steel, Keith Maples talks about his life as a professional musician. The ins and the outs and sometimes having to deal with club owners sticking guns in his face!
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Rap Music: 2:39
Jim Harris: 6:33
Flash fight: 07:45
Walter Graham: 9:29
Club owner pulls gun: 11:18
Sambuka: 13:29
Motorcycles: 16:56
Sparky: 20:38

Black Moon Syndicate
Metal Encyclopedia (Bishop Steel)

Show Notes Transcript

Current guitarist for Black Moon Syndicate and former guitarist for Bishop Steel, Keith Maples talks about his life as a professional musician. The ins and the outs and sometimes having to deal with club owners sticking guns in his face!
TCB YouTube
Revo24 Radio
TCB Patreon

Rap Music: 2:39
Jim Harris: 6:33
Flash fight: 07:45
Walter Graham: 9:29
Club owner pulls gun: 11:18
Sambuka: 13:29
Motorcycles: 16:56
Sparky: 20:38

Black Moon Syndicate
Metal Encyclopedia (Bishop Steel)

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spk_0:   0:10
welcome once again to the complicated burrito. Here's your podcast. Host Alan Brooks. All right, All the way from Florida today. We'll be talking with Keith Maples, former bishop, still guitar player currently with Black Moon Syndicate. All right, let's, uh, give Keith a call and see if he's home. Hey, buddy,

spk_1:   0:54
let's go home. Why are you doing

spk_0:   0:56
really good minute? Did you say get rained out?

spk_1:   0:58
Yeah. Yeah, we got rained out.

spk_0:   1:00
That such man. Was it outside, Chef?

spk_1:   1:03
Yeah. They got a big stage up there, man. It's nice place, man.

spk_0:   1:08
Was that in Titusville?

spk_1:   1:10
Now it's in a Melbourne,

spk_0:   1:12
Melbourne. How

spk_1:   1:13
much? R. Giger, Melbourne. And we play a few shows and tighter still. But it's your man here. They only want to pay, you know, 101 125 bursts, and it's like it's worth 100 50. Does same wages making 16 man.

spk_0:   1:30
A new man

spk_1:   1:31
of me.

spk_0:   1:31
Yeah, it

spk_1:   1:32
went out looking for food. Prices went up on my pay. Eight went up.

spk_0:   1:36
No, no. You gotta pass that old tip jar around a little bit more these days, so

spk_1:   1:43
I know it is

spk_0:   1:46
if I make a winner. If I make 100 bucks a night, man. I'm feeling good, you know? And,

spk_1:   1:53
uh, yeah, we usually get 125 100 you and I. You know, that's all. We don't play too much here in town. They, uh they actually, they pay about 500 work for peace stands. Yeah, When? 25. And they're tired of will.

spk_0:   2:13
That's awesome. Yeah, well,

spk_1:   2:16
yeah. We played out of Melbourne a lot, man. They pay 5 600 down there. Some of our 700. You know,

spk_0:   2:23
I remember, Dude, in the old days, it seemed like we would always play a five and six night. Uh, you know, bookings. And now it's just one and two nights. You know, it's completely different.

spk_1:   2:37
Yeah, socks don't, man. Yeah. One thing. Really, Dr Minivan. It's like we get through playing. They'll put on some rap music and everybody gets up and dances you. You can't get it out of the seat when you're looking. When you're fucking playing, man, when the nappies it comes on, then they're all fucking dance, man. It's weird, man. Even the rednecks down your get out of dance sign every music.

spk_0:   3:01
Well, goddamn. Make it Yeah. Makes you want one. I

spk_1:   3:06
have. And they're blasting rap music in a big, giant four wheel drive trucks You should never like. What the fuck?

spk_0:   3:13
Yeah, well, I mean, they're wrapping that country now. You know, they got country right out, you know? I mean, it's taking over. We're going

spk_1:   3:24
to have your country jeans. Man, I think, uh, there's one ball that's hoping enough. It's all country music, so we'll probably be doing a lot of country music for that place,

spk_0:   3:33

spk_1:   3:34
Uh, yeah. It's pretty diverse type of band. You know, I think we play a lot of different from Motown. Classic new stuff. I mean, you name, it will play. They, you know, somebody requested Everybody's on the phone looking to see what the corn tabal churches to it. Shit.

spk_0:   3:54
Right, Right.

spk_1:   3:56
You get the tip, we'll learn about 10 minutes.

spk_0:   4:00
Yeah, technology.

spk_1:   4:02
Yeah. I think the one thing we had maybe he has a quick because it was health issues and stuff. And, man, we had a whole year's worth of bookings, you know? So the bass player, you know, could sing most song. You know that it was all the eighties stuff. I mean, it was completely 80 stuff. So we started doing all the different newer stuff in plastic rock and, you know, handles that pretty well, the drummer's things. If you two bass players things of you and he sings, if you're watching a few, you know, got us through the year. You know, last year we we played every weekend last year. D man, it's like, goddamn any was doing. The thing I'm family made, like 35 grand last year is a band.

spk_0:   4:48
That's great.

spk_1:   4:49
It's like, Holy

spk_0:   4:52
Yeah, I've been watching you guys online, man. And you are working a lot.

spk_1:   4:57
Yeah, we stay pretty busy, man.

spk_0:   4:59
So your your band name is Black Moon Syndicate, right? Yeah. That's a cool name. You have American? Ah, Indian heritage, right?

spk_1:   5:12
Yeah. Yeah. My mom's side. Yeah.

spk_0:   5:14
Yeah, it's

spk_1:   5:14
so weird. Dude, I just got back from, uh, been North Cherokee, North Carolina, Right around there in the jerky national Force.

spk_0:   5:21
I saw some next war,

spk_1:   5:22
you know.

spk_0:   5:23
Yeah, that's cool, man.

spk_1:   5:25
Yeah, yeah. You know, my dad passed and ship me and driving up there. It just means like, damn man, I sure we assure, you know, got me choked up a little bit, you know?

spk_0:   5:35
I mean, after

spk_1:   5:35
a messy you now,

spk_0:   5:37
man, I'm so sorry. Did.

spk_1:   5:39
That's all right, man. Hell was you had a good life, you know? And, you know, I got to see him every every time I go up in a team that make sure we'd have a weekend off. And so it gets spent a week with him every month. You have for last. Yeah. 23 years of his life, you know? Right. How'd your folks doing, man?

spk_0:   6:01
They're hanging in there, man. There. They've got their struggles, but they're, you know, they're getting up there, But there, they're doing Well. Thanks, man.

spk_1:   6:09
That's good, man.

spk_0:   6:10
I'm real lefty deed.

spk_1:   6:11
Yeah, I mean, shit. Here. I lost my mom. Put about 45 years ago, man. Every time I passed by her house, it's like may I could have stopped in there a 1,000,000 times and talk to her, man. I mean, I would give anything to stop in there and talk with her now, you know? Yeah, I guess. Time marches on, you know? And you remember Clark was fishing. Meth heads are old bass player of Jim hard. Uh, Jim, Here's Yeah,

spk_0:   6:40
Yeah, he

spk_1:   6:40
came down probably about a year and 1/2 ago. We gotta play with my buddy's name. Was playing a potential buyers, and we got up in Chandler Song job

spk_0:   6:49

spk_1:   6:50
T man, It was so weird. Man about found him on failure. He found me on Facebook, man, like, Holy shit, man, this Facebook thing is pretty cool. Well, I used to be on it. All the dynamic upon myself. So busy I don't really have time to look at it too much. You know,

spk_0:   7:08
man, Jim kind of got shafted in the whole Bishop steel deal because if you remember, I blew out my my throat, and I had, you know, I had to switch the base, man. And that's when we brought in Sparky Dog on vocals because I couldn't sing and we had to keep working, you know? And I just had to let Jim go and I to take his place, and then we brought in Sparky. So, you know, Jim kind of got the short end of the stick on that, But, you know, when he was in the band, he was He was awesome.

spk_1:   7:40
Yeah, you know, he never brought it up. I never brought it up. What? You know, fuck should happen. Yeah. Flash. You know, he's in a big advantage in a band that plays around here.

spk_0:   7:52
Great college. Greg Collins. Flash, Is that it? Yeah. Yeah, I saw him get in a fight outside of the, uh, the cedar chest one night, and it was Ah, it was a fair fight, man. And they did. They squared off on each other, and I don't know. Greg must have thought that Ah, he must have been, in his mind, thinking about, like, boxing. Or, like, fair fighting. And he squared, You know, he's square. I'll knock the shit out of this guy and these. Then he stepped back and waited. And then that guy kicked his fucking ass. I

spk_1:   8:37
remember. I remember that, dude. I remember one night, man with the guy spit beer on me.

spk_0:   8:43
Something is

spk_1:   8:44
drinking beer, but beer. Oh, even said something, man. So they went outside the dude step forward. Any you like karate fucking popping right in the fucking face?

spk_0:   8:53
Right in the face, man. I mean, I

spk_1:   8:55
forgot all about the forgot. Completely forgot about thing is funny.

spk_0:   9:00
If he would have kept hitting him if he would have just kept on his man. Once you strike, you just keep striking, man until it's over, you know? But he stayed out impelled. Yeah, he stepped back, and that guy got up and just demolished him. Man, Yes. God, no, no, no. But, man, he went out there and stood up for himself. You know, uh, but then would have telling to deal with the

spk_1:   9:31
Walker Graham and all,

spk_0:   9:33
uh, recently I've spoken to him online, man. Yeah.

spk_1:   9:38
Yeah, that's cool. Well,

spk_0:   9:39
it's been a long time. Yeah,

spk_1:   9:40
he kind of got the job. You know, there would be in I got even being with me, man. But, you know, we were single. Yeah. You know, I was doing, you know, current music, and he just couldn't stand it, you know? I mean, he was like a fish shit band, Motley Crue, and fuck that. They went up to get any drama. You know, I was like, Fuck, no, nothing personal, but I got to make funny d Just what I do for a living man, you know?

spk_0:   10:07
Well, when we were together, it was like 92 to 95. Something like that,

spk_1:   10:12
I think. Yeah, Yeah, man. I

spk_0:   10:15
mean, we played

spk_1:   10:16
I'm, uh

spk_0:   10:17
man. We played a lot of shows. Did we did a lot of way.

spk_1:   10:20
Have a good big Steve. And then they were all five nighters, man. Still in mile. Any man, I was like, Man, I could remember when my singer was you actually going man could be in opposing me and do a show that sambuca get appearance thing that she like The name of Bucket Throat is blown out. Remember that flashed through a big fucking fit man and wouldn't go on stage. And we go. I think that was the last time we played with the man. The last time we ever played together, man Big. Somebody bought him a bottle. Do you remember that

spk_0:   10:59
week? I just remember we were drunk. I just remember being drunk, man. And I remember, like pleading pleading with him, you know? Ah, fucking good times.

spk_1:   11:15
I got it. Hey, remember, we're playing at Barnes. I just feel like you're holding a gun on.

spk_0:   11:21
Yes. Yeah. You pulled a gun on. You

spk_1:   11:26
remember Magda shit out of flash that night and every he was so fucking loud. You just stop playing, man. You're just like

spk_0:   11:34
that was the night, wouldn't it? That was the night that was That was the night that everything happened. You know, I remember they hired us down there, and, uh, that was Cadillac Jack's. And they hired us.

spk_1:   11:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah,

spk_0:   11:49
We played a week, and they paid this man and it went really well. And then they had us back, and we played our week and they said, Listen, guys, we can't pay, but we want you to play another week, and then we'll pay you for both weeks at the end of that week, and we was like, Okay, well, the next week came by and they didn't have our money. And you you went ape shit crazy in a yurt. You confessed, And I remember I saw the bar under that big O Cuban dude. He was an older guy, was from Cuba and I saw him go out front. So I went out the kitchen door and I was watching him, and I saw him get something out of his car and he comes back and he had that. I think I I think I gave you the heads up, man. Right before he came in, that dude, he might have a gun, and he did Put that right in your face. You're

spk_1:   12:46
gonna change model attitude like you don't give me that goddamn one younger. Rip his fucking bar part. Then he stuck a gun in my face. Well, just get it to me whenever you can.

spk_0:   12:55
You? Yeah, Yeah, yeah,

spk_1:   12:58
I changed my whole demeanor. I shot over Bo.

spk_0:   13:01
Can I at least get my equipment? Sir,

spk_1:   13:08
that night I had flashes so plucking while we went out back, man, and he grabs Hold my fucking shirt. I'll slap the shit out of Hey started, kind even with that I

spk_0:   13:18
d'oh d'oh! Jug

spk_1:   13:21
is that motherfucker was like, Man, don't you ever grab his shirt like Daddy.

spk_0:   13:26
Well, I didn't think e I wasn't a big drinker, man. But that night I remember being drunk.

spk_1:   13:38
That sambuca shit

spk_0:   13:40
head BUCA

spk_1:   13:41
always with a quick drink. Smooth

spk_0:   13:47
Grand Mornay.

spk_1:   13:48
I don't mean I did. It's weird. Convertible drink. You're nothing. The less I'm pointing. And that's the only time I drink. Have you? No. I'll drink my ass off for the 1st 2 sets of in the third, said I gotta start drinking water to say we're up, you know?

spk_0:   14:03
Well, I used to. I used to get, like, a triple shot of dram buoy after the show. And then by the time I got back to the hotel, I was ready for bed, you know? Yeah. And then I started doing ah, spirit dram booty baby in. And

spk_1:   14:18
I am Now. You hear that in a long time? That shot of that man when I next weekend

spk_0:   14:24
did when I order a drink that they usually have to blow the dust off the bader. You know, there's no one

spk_1:   14:36
I charge that because I've been drinking, grounding coke, and I think I'll drink it so much, it just doesn't really affect me like it used to, you know? Damn band. This drinking give me fucked up at all.

spk_0:   14:50
I was

spk_1:   14:51
doing a job, you know, I

spk_0:   14:53
was looking at some pictures of the band. And what do you got? Lasers. And what do you got? A ce faras lights. You got a lot of stuff up there on stage.

spk_1:   15:02
Oh, yeah, man, I got all kinds of leaving rice and trust is and all kinds of shit need, guys. Er's it's it's it's I had a guy that, uh, actually does all the data minutes shows all the bike week shows He's got three stages that he runs And I had him come program all the whites and should ah, fuck the killer D But much setup time Do your talking fucking 23 hours of setting that shit up and running it, you know,

spk_0:   15:34

spk_1:   15:34
I mean, I could do a small set up without all the leaving lights and trusted texting about an hour to get all that set up. But, you know, if I go all out and you know, you're talking four hours, you know, running cables and running this to that and

spk_0:   15:51

spk_1:   15:51
lot of shit.

spk_0:   15:54
Yeah, looks did it

spk_1:   15:55
Look, goes the motherfucking idea.

spk_0:   15:57
Yeah, it does.

spk_1:   16:00
You know, the bar don't wanna pay nothing. Then it's like, fucking I'm not breaking all that shit out. You know what I mean? I'm already fucking takes me an hour to set up with the time I got, you know, breakdowns about an hour T man like Dan did. You didn't even bring any lights last night like a cheap cheap ass motherfucking bar and the only one of favorite sport. And I like before honor. You don't get no white. I

spk_0:   16:29
got it. I got a package is as American deejay car 56 l E D's. There's four of them in a little.

spk_1:   16:35
Oh, yeah,

spk_0:   16:36
And I can clamp him on Thio anything. So I just clamping onto, like, Thea p a stand, the stands, the ph cabinets, run, and yeah, and just targeted man. And, ah, you know, you can ah, Daisy train them off each other. So, uh so, yeah, I kind of got away from that huge set up myself to Hey, do you still got your Harley?

spk_1:   16:57
Yeah. Yeah,

spk_0:   16:59
awesome. Dude.

spk_1:   17:01
Yeah. I never ran When you had that. Been that hard to do. That thing was bad ass. What? It and

spk_0:   17:06
well, And then I got that Kawasaki that Vulcan. Yeah, Yeah, yeah,

spk_1:   17:12
yeah, That's right, man.

spk_0:   17:13
Yeah, and I wrote that I didn't have a car. I wrote that for years, man. I mean, I was on a motorcycle for, like, five years, and I didn't have a car more. You're really? Yeah. And out strapped member. I'd strap that base to my back with a belt

spk_1:   17:29
right up. Forgot all about that.

spk_0:   17:32
And then I drive home, like, three hours on autopilot. Did I have that big old bread truck down there when you was in the band?

spk_1:   17:40
You had it right before I joined the

spk_0:   17:42
band. Okay. I was wonder, huh? Because that thing had split rooms. I could work. Yeah, I can remember going down 95 men, That thing that split rooms in all of a sudden, good seeing man. And I see this this thing just go flying across the highway, man and man, you know that those wheels, they outlawed him, they killed people, man. Damn. Really? Yeah, yeah, but, uh, yeah, yeah. Split roof. You know, years later, dude, I was driving down Cocoa Beach, and, uh, I saw that bread truck sitting for Scylla. Jerry's pawnshop for 99 bucks. I wouldn't do I want in her body, man. And, uh, I just parked where my work was mine, and I just sit in there, you know, remember the good times. But finally I had to have it towed off. But, man, the old bread truck

spk_1:   18:42
Well, you have it add up but up there.

spk_0:   18:44
Yeah, I was doing. I was working at a printing company for a couple of years, you know, up there. And then, OK, then I was playing that night. That was right before I joined Rocks Gang. And, uh, I was working, like, you know, the night shift. 12 hours, and I you know, it was tough. Yeah. I got to support the family. I think

spk_1:   19:06
I was looking at your your page, man. And he had, like, dread walks.

spk_0:   19:11
Yeah, man, that was blessed Virgin Larry D. That was the end there. That was my last little hurrah. But

spk_1:   19:18
was it really?

spk_0:   19:19
Yeah, Yeah. Quit that in, like, 2005. I think. You know, uh, it was a lot of fun. You know, man, you know that. Yeah, I was. You know, the 11 of regrets I have did is that you and me never got to record a song together, and we never really got any video clips of us. And we did so much, you know,

spk_1:   19:43
my house they had I never really thought about what you just said. That man.

spk_0:   19:48
Well, it's really bummed me out, man. And you know, I saw that metal encyclopedia thing. I don't know. A year ago, two years ago, and that blew me away and they let me. So I wrote him, you know? And so I joined it. You know, they let anybody conjoined it, and then they let me do some editing, and they have to approve it. So, you know, I was able to put in all the band members and all that stuff, but But they already had us on there, you know? I was just shocked and ah, so I try. I submitted a few the other bands I was in, and they declined them. So, you know, they're real serious about who they let in there. And I just I was real honored, and so I wanted to let you know about that.

spk_1:   20:30
Yeah. I don't know if they do anything. Recover bands. Do they

spk_0:   20:34
know it's all metal strictly round all

spk_1:   20:37
stuff or I tell your family Barchi came up last week. Did he, uh, he got, you know, I just came out there in hand, eating the guitar that, uh, we know that all summer long, and it goes into sweet home Alabama. Fuck you play good. The note for note, man, when he got up in saying that the ah, Maine in the box and fucking actually really good dude,

spk_0:   21:00
those pictures she sent me, I was shocked. He looks like he did. Hasn't aged a day from when I saw that

spk_1:   21:09
separates got brown here. I was like, What? You tell your man I got started dudes whistling at me and she

spk_0:   21:18
Yeah, Yeah. Nice to have that from her. That's hilarious. Then you turn around and, like, over

spk_1:   21:27
there together, wiping and remember men. Yet there's white. Nancy said, bishops doing the pants

spk_0:   21:33
meddling all

spk_1:   21:34
over your being in.

spk_0:   21:34
Yeah, you know,

spk_1:   21:36
things were bad after you got a pair of white ones. I was like, Fuck, I don't know how he did that, man. How did you do that?

spk_0:   21:42
I took him to ah silk screening Company, and I just had them, you know? Do you know, over and over and over and over and over again until it was all over That you know, that was so you know, that years and years ago. Yeah, but that was all custom done. Yeah, I had seen these pants that just like that, but it said fuck off on it. And I thought it was so cool. And so I just kind of changed it to Bishop. Still, you know?

spk_1:   22:08
Yeah, I got a buddy of my main hairbrushes. All my guitars,

spk_0:   22:12

spk_1:   22:13
house and take appeared beans over there to him and have him. Do you like the Joker? You know, like the Batman should on. No, they had that man. Have you ever seen that stuff up? Think it's old rock? Where, um,

spk_0:   22:26
we just wrap your card?

spk_1:   22:29
Yeah. All these really cool ass looking fucking talking. Roller closed, but

spk_0:   22:33
oh, yeah, Yeah. I have seen that man

spk_1:   22:39
like a pair of jeans, dude. Like, 300 buck in dollars and the jacket of best and sure GT $300. It's like, God dang, man. You know, bike week. Then they have the full moon slim. And my buddy's being hosted every year, man. I mean, they're they're fucking good. Do their fucking damn good man. The drummer. He played the patch Travers, and he toured with the cold for a little while and he told with a bunch of big bands, you know, I mean any, any consumed, like a motherfucker do you play guitar like a month. I mean, everything he does, he just fucking phenomenal is a big factor. You would never looking at him would think that. Damn this motherfucker's of bad. As you know,

spk_0:   23:23
I love it. Uh, yeah,

spk_1:   23:26
he heard that every year. I guess they're booking agents. Got him, You know, they were headlining act every year. They opened up for her, like, cleans. What? I eager some big name band, but gather constantly planted in the three piece

spk_0:   23:41
of video. Yeah. Please D Oh, yeah. I love it when somebody comes out on stage and you're like, Oh, no, what's this? You know? And all of a sudden they just kill you, You know? I should slay. I love that man. Well, did, um thanks for being on the podcast today. I'm going to call you from time to time in and touch up with you.

spk_1:   24:04
Yeah, I am. Please do, man. God is so good to hear your voice, man. I'm I'm gonna plan on coming up there, man. Where exactly are you located at?

spk_0:   24:12
I'm about 1/2 hour outside of Kansas City.

spk_1:   24:15
So good talking with this gene has been a long time, man.

spk_0:   24:18
Yeah. I'm sorry your gig got cancelled tonight.

spk_1:   24:22
I'm glad to have a night off. You'd be honest with you.

spk_0:   24:24
They give everything works out. All right, Let team in. All right, brother Piece. All right. Thanks for listening to our podcast today. That was an interesting conversation today with Keith Maples, former Bishop steel guitar player currently with Black Moon Syndicate on behalf of REV 0 24 radio. This is Alan Brooks for the complicated burrito. Revel 24 Radio Are not your parents radio station of unless your parents are a sick way?